S-news will move to new home!!

Alan Zaslavsky (zaslavsk@hcp.med.harvard.edu)
Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:46:37 -0500 (EST)


S-NEWS WILL MOVE TO NEW HOME!!

The S-news mailing list is projected to be moved on Tuesday, February 3
to a new home at Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis,
USA.

NEW LIST ADDRESS AND LIST SERVER ADDRESS

Once the move is made (which will be announced when it has actually
taken place), mail for posting to the list should be sent to:

s-news@wubios.wustl.edu

All subscription and unsubscription requests and other list management
commands (see more detailed information below) should be sent to

s-news-request@wubios.wustl.edu

Messages and requests to the old addresses will be forwarded to the
corresponding new addresses described above. All current subscribers
will be transferred to the new list. If you subscribed within the
last week and you do not receive mail from the new list immediately
after the transition, you may have been lost in the transition and
will want to resubscribe as described below.

Messages that require human intervention should be sent to

s-news-owner@wubios.wustl.edu

but you should make use of the automatic list processor commands whenever
they cover the situation.

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO?

Probably, nothing! Current subscribers will be automatically transferred
to the new list. If your subscription lapses, or if you want to switch
to digest format, see instructions at the bottom of the message. And
don't forget to use the new address given above for contributions.
(Messages to the old list address will be forwarded.) If you have links
to this list on a Web site, please update them.

WHY MOVE?

S-news was originally centered at the University of Wisconsin and then
moved to the University of Toronto, where it has been managed for the
last several years. During this time the S/S-plus community, and hence
the size of this mailing list, have grown tremendously (currently over
1600 names), causing two problems for the Toronto list management
system:

(1) The mailer at Toronto proceeds through the lists sequentially,
causing long delays for names that are low on the list (around 5
hours). This inhibits discussion on topics on which rapid feedback is
desirable, and conversely leads to unnecessary duplication of effort
when several participants reply to the same message during the delay.

(2) Toronto does not use automatic list-management software.
Subscription and unsubscription requests are managed by hand, imposing
a major burden on the list manager and inevitably leading to delays in
processing of requests. Automatic list management software is not
currently installed at the Toronto Statistics site; installation and
management of such software would require a substantial commitment of
new resources that are not available at that site.

The list server at Washington University offers several advantages
and useful features:

(1) This site already has experience running automatic list management
software. Among the features of the software are: automatic
subscription and unsubscription upon user request; automatic filtering
of some inappropriate messages (including subscribe/unsubscribe requests
and some spam messages) so they do not get distributed to the list.

(2) The mailer software breaks the outgoing mail into chunks that are
distributed in parallel, so the total time required to get through
the list is much shorter.

(3) Subscriptions will be available in digest format. With this option,
each day's messages are compiled into a single message for convenient
reading by those who do not prefer immediate receipt of individual
messages. To get messages in digest format, subscribe to the
separate digest list, s-news-digest.

(4) The list will be automatically archived. The archive will be
accessible using Majordomo (list manager) commands (see below), or in
HTML format at www.biostat.wustl.edu.

HOW WAS THE DECISION MADE?

A discussion has been conducted over the past several weeks on a list
created for this purpose (s-news-move@verdi.stat.wisc.edu).
Participants included the original initiator (Doug Bates of U.
Wisconsin) of the list and any other list readers who chose to
subscribe. There was unanimity that a move would be appropriate; the
current list maintainers agreed to this move. Washington University
(Division of Biostatistics, School of Medicine) offered itself as a new
location for the list and there was agreement that their capabilities
were appropriate. Statistical Sciences division of Mathsoft (the
vendors of S-plus) also offered to support the list, but there was
consensus to decline this alternative offer in order to avoid any
possible perception of conflict of interest.

The discussion has been archived and can be accessed by sending mail to
s-news-move-request@verdi.stat.wisc.edu with the subject "archive" and a
series of commands as in the following example:
ls latest
get latest/12
egrep some.word latest/*
quit

Rob Tibshirani and Nancy Reid of the University of Toronto Statistics
Department have agreed to the appropriateness of the move. Tom Glinos,
who has been handling list management at U of Toronto, has sent the
list to the new managers and is working on making the move go as smoothly
as possible. We are very appreciative of the work that has been done
by the U. of Toronto team, and there is agreement that the best way to
show our appreciation is to pass this burden on to others.

WHAT SHOULD I DO IF I HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE DECISION TO
MOVE?

Write to the mailing list for the move, s-news-move@verdi.stat.wisc.edu.
Somebody on this discussion list will probably respond to your concern.
If you are interested in the pursuing the issue, you should subscribe
to that list and read the archive as described above.

WHO WILL MAINTAIN THE S-NEWS LIST?

The sponsor of the list is J. Philip Miller, Professor of Biostatistics at
Washington University, St. Louis. The technical administrator is Erich
Schraer, systems administrator at the same department. Messages requiring
human intervention, such as improperly formatted list management requests
or queries and comments that cannot be handled automatically, will be
handled by Jean Adams of the United States Geological Survey (and should
be sent to s-news-owner@wubios.wustl.edu).

WHAT IS THE POLICY ON APPROPRIATE USE OF THE LIST?

The following paragraph appears as the description of the S-news list on
the list management site and in other publicity.

S-news is the discussion group on the S and S-plus systems. Appropriate
topics must be related to S/S-plus, including programming and usage
questions and suggestions, problem reports, and announcements of new
software (contributed and commercial), books and articles, and
conferences and educational events. Short job announcements are also
acceptable. Long advertisements and commercial messages that are not
specifically relevant to S/S-plus are not acceptable.

WHAT ARE SOME IMPORTANT LIST MANAGEMENT COMMANDS?

All list management commands should be sent to s-news-request@wubios.wustl.edu.
The command (or multiple commands) should be in the body of the message,
not in the subject line. If your mailer puts a signature at the end of the
message, put the command
end
after your list commands so the signature is not interpreted as commands.
NEVER send commands to s-news! (NEVER!)

A full list of commands can be obtained by sending the command
help

To subscribe to the list, send the command
subscribe s-news
or for the digest version,
subscribe s-news-digest
You will be sent a confirmation message to which you must reply to make
sure that you actually desired to subscribe. This is intended to prevent
forged subscriptions. Note that subscriptions to the immediate-delivery
and digest versions is handled like two separate lists, so if you want to
switch from immediate delivery to digest, you must unsubscribe to s-news
and subscribe to s-news-digest.

If you want to subscribe using a different address than the one you are
sending from, use the command
subscribe s-news myname@my.address

To unsubscribe, send one of the following commands as appropriate:
unsubscribe s-news
unsubscribe s-news-digest
unsubscribe s-news myname@my.address
unsubscribe s-news-digest myname@my.address

To get information on policies for this list, similar to the initial
message, use the command
info s-news

To find out about archived messages send the command
index s-news
or point your Web browser at http://www.biostat.wustl.edu/