The riddle

From: yu244941@yorku.ca
Date: Tue Dec 03 2002 - 02:02:50 EST

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    As mentioned in the short story, the riddle is described as “the Godel sentence
    for the human Turing machine” which causes the mind to jam. Christopher
    Cherniak uses this example of human mind-jamming to illustrate to the readers
    the difference between the human mind and the machine. This riddle presented
    by Christopher Cherniak is to imply that a human mind will fall into a never-
    ending loop when presented towards Godel statements that cannot be proven. An
    example is a self-reference statement, "This sentence is false." The paradoxes
    produce logical mind-jam or mind-loop because the mind will follow the line of
    thought: “The sentence is false. If it is false, then what it says isn’t true.
    But then the sentence isn’t false. So it’s true. But if it is true then it is
    false (because that’s what it says). But then it isn’t true. But then...” The
    mind will continuously follow this line of thought and eventually fall into a
    mind jam or mind loop. According to Lucas, when a conscious being knows
    something, “he knows that he knows it and he knows that he knows it and so
    on.” This looping process continues to infinity. It also exists when a mind
    considers self-reference statements. However, there are also survivors in this
    short story. This is because the riddle will only affect those who
    continuously and deeply think about the “Godel sentence”. Those who do not
    think deeply about the statement will not be affected.

    On the other hand, if this statement is applied to a machine, the machine will
    act differently. Since the machine acts according to definite rules as argued
    by Lucas, the machine will act according to how it is programmed. The
    operations and performance of a machine, a formal consistent system, is
    predictable. Therefore, if it is presented with the Godel’s Incompleteness
    Theorem, it will not fall into the never-ending loop similar to that of a
    mind. It will directly call for the answer pre-programmed in the machine such
    as a stop-rule or exception etc and perform accordingly. It is not self-
    conscious and cannot think like minds can and therefore cannot act towards self-
    reference statements. In addition, chimpanzees, dogs and pigeons are not
    affected because they do not have the mind like that of a human mind.
    Therefore, they will not understand the self-reference statement presented to
    them.

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