After weeks of reading and analysis on the Lucas piece
and "the riddle" I believe I have the answer.
What puzzled me for the longest time was how a brain
could become jammed. Especially after reading about
how we are able to think at many levels and trump
machines because of it. After much debate with myself
over the merits of different scenarios and the
relevance to Lucas' analysis I believe the brain is in
fact looking for answers.
Several people have explained very admirably how
Lucas' analysis relates to Godel's Incompleteness
Theorem. I believe this is very important to gain an
understanding of the riddle and 'look' for possible
answers to why this is happening.
Here are some (of many) of the things that REALLY
puzzled me about the Cherniak story that I had to work
through to come up with my answer.
1. Why did the new programmer 'fail' to get enticed
by the riddle?
2. Why did the topologist suffer identical
consequences in a totally unrelated research project
and field?
3. Did Dizzard suffer the same consequences of the
riddle 10 years prior? (credit to the other person in
this forum who initially proposed this first!)
4. What does this have to do with Self Reference?
I re-read the Riddle (probably 6 times) and read other
information and felt compelled to answer Question 4
before moving on to formulate my answer to the riddle.
After some creative brainstorming I still was
thinking, Loop, infinite iterations, recursive
questions for unkowns and tried to normalize my answer
to fit seemed like all the other explanations I found
while reading all the latest emails each day. I
agreed with almaost all of them.
Then, by accident, in my sub-concsious I thought of
it while listening to music in the car. Similar to
hearing special effects, like an echo. Well the idea
was what if the rationalistic side of your brain could
gain a conscience. The second order is attained.
Previously mentionned by J.D Rueda for his analogy
when a computer crashes. This is very similar.
Except this is not a mechanistic process, this is the
Brain gaining another 'level' of consciousness.
This satisfied my belief that a self referential
paradox was at play when these people articulated
thoughts in their head how to compare, analyze,
differentiate and ANSWER their questions.
I encourage you to look up the definition of Autotomy.
If you have read this far. You deserve to find out
but I will leave it to your own curiosity.
Answers to the questions I had above...
1. Because the programmer failed to understand the
information on the screen. He was new after all. I
have a lot of other Questions regarding this person in
the story. I am saving those for my essay!
2. Topologists do it by their very nature. I don't
really understand what they really do anyways. This
was accidental. My apologies to all the Topologists
out there.
3. I believe yes. Dizzard must have been able to
break out of the paradox in his brain and return to
investigate and document his findings on the Autotomy
of the brain.
4. The brain has obtained another dimension of
conscience and might be asking itself a question.
Similar to the 2nd order and thinking outside the box.
Once you are able to ascend to that level and
dimension of consciousness, parts of the brain appear
to be jammed as it debates several other new
tantalizing ideas in a whole new dimension.
Other questions like, did the brain disconnect from
the body or the body from the brain, to protect
against loss of the other party etc. These are
obvious philosophical questions. Can make arguments
for both ==> and then Inconsistancies.
Let me know if this is just a bunch of nonsense or if
it seems like a sound argument.
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