Re: My hypothesis

From: Mary Penwell (metallic@yorku.ca)
Date: Tue Dec 07 2004 - 00:50:35 EST

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    Aaron’s analysis of the story is quite interesting; however according to the
    lecture, allowances for inconsistencies would mean more would be uncovered. More
    would mean that the complexity would be too difficult for humans to deal with,
    thus that sort of computer system could never be created. Also, even if such a
    computer were to be created hypothetically, it would need to be infinite in many
    respects. Such a computer is not possible even in the distance future. Computers
    as we know them, require hard drives to store information, the bigger hard
    drives we require, the more space we need to place them, the more components we
    need to take advantage of them, and consequently the more power we need to run
    them. The closest I could imagine to an infinite computer is the dream of
    someday having a Quantum Computer.
    Lucas said we cannot assert our own consistency, as we are trapped within that
    very system. We would need to be able to step out. The reason we can find Gödel
    Statements for computers is because we can sit back, far removed and determine
    one with all the facts. We can’t for ourselves however, and there exists nothing
    above the human mind that we know of. If we did indeed have a Gödel Statement,
    it would likely mean we are not so inconsistent after all.
    The best explanation I can devise is:

    A) Quantum Computers have been invented and found to be infinite, and thus the
    computer has turned into a greater being. After all, they can already be more
    efficient than us at most things.
    B) A Gödel Statement was created for humans, perhaps by a greater being. Maybe
    Dizzard was doing some experiments with some sort of unearthly beings. Who knows?
    C) Perhaps most of the characters in the story were not human after all, but
    rather cyborgs.

    So most of my explanations are more out of a science fiction movie than
    anything, the whole riddle to me appeared to be quite sci-fi like.
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